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Poll From: 10/26/2013

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Do you see video games as art? Submitted By evilemperor, UT
Yes.
No.
I don't know enough about them.
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uranovercomer
on 10/31/13
G0d10v3 liked this  
Waste of time. Find something productive to do people!
MrPopo91
on 10/29/13
dc5523 and 1 others liked this  
Concept art, character models, environments, textures, animations, music, sound effects, scripts. These are all made by artists/writers/musicians. For someone to say that video games aren't art is incredibly ignorant. Film is art, writing is art, music is art, painting is art, modeling is art, animating is art. Video games have all of that so how can they not be art? because they're interactive? because you don't like the plot or how much blood or vulgarity is in the games you're familiar with? That doesn't negate all the artistic talent that goes into each and every video game ever made. Video games are art. Deal with it.
iPVPirl
on 10/26/13
MrPopo91 and 4 others liked this  
Video game creators do have to design and create to make video games. It's not done by a machine and there are artists involved. The backgrounds, character creations, textures, story line, and environment are all some form of art. Whether you want to say that it's not art like a painting or art like a sculpture, there is still quite a bit of art involved. I remember trying to play around with a free form of AutoCAD and for the life of me I could not even make a simple room. This might be the normal form of art that people are used to, but it's a new era. We all live on the computer and we all use our technology. The amount of work put in to making a video game is still there. I'm a little shocked at how far apart the "yes" and "no" votes are. I thought the "I don't know enough about them" would be so much higher than the "no". Just because something isn't a form of art that you are used to doesn't mean that it does not
iPVPirl
on 10/29/13
Just because something isn't a form of art that you are used to doesn't mean that it is not (a form of art).* I had to fix that or it would drive me nuts.
Peopleknowme
on 10/28/13
Concept art. All I gotta say.
silencebabyy
on 10/27/13
symphonysf liked this  
well i mean the graphics and stuff... some are pretty epic... if character designing and scene etc are considered art then yeahhh
symphonysf
on 10/27/13
very nice :)
MOOLI
on 10/27/13
symphonysf liked this  
Graphic cool but some data for example sounds not was good.
Skizy6
on 10/27/13
MrPopo91 and 1 others liked this  
If people can make art out of photographing trash or by drawing random lines and calling it abstract, then YES, Videogames and Graffiti are most definitely art.
kelly43605
on 10/27/13
dc5523 and 4 others liked this  
Open your eyes people art is everywhere!!
theassassins
on 10/27/13
MrPopo91 and 1 others liked this  
people who said no

dont know what art is>
Sprinkles26510
on 10/27/13
Yes
princesslollie
on 10/27/13
no--but they are fun as hell--i been gaming since i was a child, when my kids are old enough they gona fight me for console time lol
megchlo31
on 10/27/13
I think some games can be artstic
Julz0713
on 10/27/13
Some of the graphics are so good yes they would be considered artistic.
Sprinkles26510
on 10/27/13
Yes!
leinad00
on 10/27/13
Yes!
roysmommy1003
on 10/27/13
creating games is artistic
zacjobfinder
on 10/27/13
Very few
Chickadove
on 10/27/13
pyromcr24 liked this  
"Only some of them" should definitely be an answer.
Mattiik
on 10/27/13
007frodo liked this  
I want to be a cowboy baby...
Bournefort17
on 10/27/13
People who say no have no idea what goes into making games and the graphics aspect behind them. The graphics engines are very sophisticated and most modern games require a very good understanding of real-world physics to be incorporated into the gameplay.
sunnieday
on 10/27/13
Chickadove liked this  
I'm a gamer and have been for years. Some of the concept designs that go into games are amazing. Also my daughter is going into video game design as her chosen field in college. I've been amazed at her sketches and designs for games. So yes I think some video games are art.
SpreadWord
on 10/27/13
Only if they are 8-bit graphics. :-)
joshfif
on 10/26/13
KayyMarie224 and 5 others liked this  
35 % that voted yes are gamers that never ever thought about games as art, and still voted yes
DJKP
on 10/26/13
so true, another fact:

People who said replied to your comment saying you are wrong, are also insecure
morimunda
on 10/27/13
That's just like, uh, your opinion man. Don't make a mountain out of an ant hill.
Heatheretts
on 10/26/13
Dragonfaire liked this  
Every game starts out with concept art and many end up becoming works of art. I've played many games that have detail only artist would do. I truly see many video games art.

Fact: your comment is an opinion.
harnzen
on 10/26/13
Lol, not so much.
morimunda
on 10/26/13
Dragonfaire and 5 others liked this  
Speak for yourself, I've been into video games most of my life & I've seen them as art for years.
ttsmom143
on 10/26/13
Chloe103 and 2 others liked this  
I said yes. I am not a gamer but my kids play them!! :)
harnzen
on 10/26/13
morimunda liked this  
Wrong. I've heard multiple conversations on whether or not games are art. Maybe you had never thought of it before, but that doesn't mean no one else has.
SixSamuraiYaichi
on 10/26/13
Heatheretts and 7 others liked this  
Not true. Stop being such a gamer hater.
Ann2603
on 10/27/13
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PyramidHead316
on 10/26/13
Chickadove and 4 others liked this  
It depends on the video game. Something like Call of Duty isn't art. However, if you look at Soul Reaver 2, the locations there are some of the most beautiful ever put in a video game. Some of them even beat CG movies, put out by filmmakers. O_O It's really obvious the makers of Soul Reaver 2 really wanted you to experience a world, not just go playing around in bland locations. It's pretty obvious that a lot of art went into making that game. :) Then you have the Silent Hill games (1-4, not the recent ones), which are on an entirely different level. Shadow of the Colossus is universally acknowledged by critics as being art, no exceptions. Although SH: Shattered Memories has the most psychological story ever put in a video game, literally.* I think it's bad thinking to automatically pass judgment on an entire medium and say none of it is art, or all of it is. Most video games aren't art. But there are a few games that are.
PyramidHead316
on 10/26/13
morimunda liked this  
Because when you can cover rape respectfully in a game, not use it for exploitation, give an in-depth analysis of it in the storyline, and have the female victim not look like a vulnerable stereotype, you have transcended the genre. You've done something wonderful. Most movies, television shows, music, or hell even books don't deal with rape that respectfully (I'm talking about fictional ones, of course), they stumble. It has to be considered art. It may not be literature, because you can't read it, but it is most definitely art. There is just no way to look at that game, look at what it represents and what the story has told you throughout the course of it, and think otherwise. "No way." You lose all credibility otherwise. :)


Sorry for the long posts and multiple replies, Swag Bucks! :D I had a long post to make, but I couldn't get it across in one. (Man, I hate these 1000 character limits on most sites! *shakes fist*)
PyramidHead316
on 10/26/13
morimunda liked this  
The whole thing was rather hilarious to watch. In the process, they exposed themselves as frauds. :) Now, they weren't doing it maliciously, they just didn't know nearly as much about art as they thought. That proved something, and it is that art is subjective to everyone, and everyone has a different opinion. So technically speaking, there is no such thing as a universal definition on what makes something art. :)

* With Silent Hill, you also have a special case. Because when you can address rape respectfully in a game, in the storyline, and have the developers come out on the other side smelling like roses, you've done something extraordinary. The most controversial subject in human history, and they covered it perfectly. :) There is a reason that Silent Hill 2 is considered the greatest horror game in history. I disagree for several reasons, because I think there are several games that can match it, but I understand their reasoning.
PyramidHead316
on 10/26/13
On the other hand, if you apply it too liberally, then almost every movie, books, and video game ever made passes! O_O So, you have to find the middle ground. In the end, the question rides solely on what you consider art. What does art mean to you? If you have a very loose definition of it, then art can be anything. It doesn't have to be a movie, book, or a video game, it can be an artistic expression of any kind! :)

Heck, some paintings aren't even considered art! O_O This was shown by "Would You Fall For That?" when they switched the rules of a museum a bit, for one drawn by a kid. The art critics (some of them) fell over themselves heaping praise on a painting, not realizing it was done by a kid for fun! There was no hidden meanings to it (despite what the critics believed), she wasn't expressing anything, she just did it for fun. Because they told her to!
PyramidHead316
on 10/26/13
Most movies aren't art. Most books aren't art, either, for that matter. Some of the "art" movies that are beloved by critics are nothing more than pretentious garbage that doesn't make any sense, and random images that are being thrown onto the screen by the director. On the other hand, some are downright masterpieces! (I have an appreciation for those. :) ) It varies with the medium. Hideo Kojima says that his games aren't art, although some parts in Metal Gear come very, very close. This may be a case of the artist (or director, in this case) not recognizing the value of his work. (This was before the recent games, though. He's fallen down a bit since then.) Some people are like that. They don't see the value in what they're doing. On the other hand, some like Mario are just for fun. In the broadest definition of the term, expressing yourself, and the expression of ideas, most examples of the mediums actually fail if you apply it too serious
Kaliyugo
on 10/26/13
The thing about a game is it can have art in it but to call it art as a whole is off because the gameplay itself alters this. Unless the game play can be art, which it isnt completely since the player alters the play, depending on the game. The game play itself, is another aspect, so to call it art as whole isnt correct.

Art is not subjective (not completely) its creating something and expressing what is within. Whether someone feels it or likes it, if I draw something, its art. At least if its of a certain skill level (which this level doesnt have to be high). Even if I dont feel something, I can see art where it is because its a skill too, and/or a expression.
With the expression part there still has to be skill.


10-27-13 254am
Kaliyugo
on 10/26/13
Creating gameplay is a skill, but its not like a picture or something to make you feel to much (it can but that will wear thing over time), its more physics, laws and functions. This can be artistic in someway but for the most part isnt, the player takes it and does whatever. It is beyond the creator.
You can be skilled at game, a skill is a art, however, what you do with the skill is beyond the creator, its now your art. But not artsy. It wont win a award, but maybe a tourney. So many people who call games art miss this.
Even if it could win a award, the gameplay itself isnt the art, its what the game play allows.
A creation tool in game allows the player to create, does that make the tool art? Is photo shop art? How abut paint itself? The paint board? Even if its artistic, it holds, my paint so it serves as something else. There are so many aspects to a game, not just story and environments. To call it one thing is a bit much.

10-27-13 255am
Kaliyugo
on 10/26/13
If anything, games are peices of art, or better yet something with art in it, gameplay excluded. (But you cant exclude, its a video GAME.) And games have other features as well, Such as a theater mode, level editor, character editor, etc.
To even call it pieces of art is off, because a game can be SO much. Art (sculptures, painting, etc) can do a lot for a person to, but they are not interactive. Games being interactive alter this art so much. Its a experience
There are exceptions of games like heavy rain, but you move the character around.
Walking around and altering things seems to alter this, however, I have never played it so I dont know how much freedom you have. The less freedom is the more like a movie or painting it taking it close to one subject or many subjects which art is. Once the person can control the art, it becomes more of a object. Or partly an object (tool), part art.
10-27-13 256am
Kaliyugo
on 10/27/13
Sorry for extra post
but that was 309am, its not 310am
Kaliyugo
on 10/27/13
Mario is just for fun? You're the typical person. Mario isnt just for fun, its a skill based game. Like Quake, people look back and say the game is garbage and moves to fast yet miss how heavily skill based the game is. The way people play it could be considered art, however, the devs didnt plan for that. - Mose devs dont even play at a high level or understand their own game at a this level, see the smash brothers series, so imbalanced. --
Can ya call something art if it was done by accident or you had no idea what you did?
I'd say no, you didnt do it. -- Such unknowns also serve for some serious flaws -
This isnt the same as interpreting a piece in a way the artist didnt know, which is still beyond the artist. The artist cant be credited for the interpretation, just merely the pic which let the viewer see, and feel what they felt.
A player is literally moving the physics, this beyond the dev. When you create physics so much is beyond the dev.
10-27-13
Kaliyugo
on 10/27/13
Rape handled respectfully is not art, That is merely knowing how to handle an issue in story, the art its how they made you feel it and dealing with it creatively and/or skillfully, rape is merely the subject. The devs just did more with it than devs or writers usually do (never saw rape in a game before). And to say rape is the most controversial is laughable. It serves as slang, and is considered a joke when it happens to men and is handled so poorly in the media its a complete shame. Disgusting to say the least.
10-27-13 302am
darkfire7777
on 10/27/13
yes I do
uniquelegance
on 10/26/13
im not into games like that
NonstopApad
on 10/26/13
CreamyDrink and 1 others liked this  
Grand Theft Auto V is a masterpiece
Heatheretts
on 10/26/13
sunnieday and 1 others liked this  
I think only gamers can understand how true this is :\
Silvershade122
on 10/26/13
kaetic liked this  
I design my own games myself, and yes they're art, once you work on one that really isn't a question anymore XD. There is just so much you can do with them, they involve the person more then any medium out there in my opinion.
BillyZ23
on 10/26/13
Yes, isn't Graphic design a type of art...
Heatheretts
on 10/26/13
Matthew7 and 3 others liked this  
The 50% that voted "No" should have really voted "don't know enough about them". Even though I'm a hardcore gamer, voting yes had nothing to do with it. GTAV is simply amazing, the detail in that game truly came from an artist! I mean that for any game, the people who create them should be considered artist.
Siubr
on 10/26/13
Good game needs lots of energy.
princesscontessa
on 10/26/13
:)
MaiMai311
on 10/26/13
My first instinct was to vote no, which I did, however, video games fall into the same category of art as movies, films and plays. Animated films are considered part of the art category which includes movies and film. So while I voted no, the correct answer should have been yes, otherwise, film, movies and plays cannot be considered art either.
Dancer49
on 10/26/13
Seems like everyone has a different opion on what art is.
TFiPW
on 10/26/13
Tjnicole liked this  
graphic arts.*
25Shadow75
on 10/26/13
Go to a Museum, They have ART there, Can you name an "Artist"? Sure you can. An artist makes "ART".

Video games have pictures and graphics, Can you name a Video Game, Sure you can.
But, Can you name a "Video Game Artist"?, I'd bet you can't.. That is why it is NOT "ART".
johnthejanitor
on 10/26/13
Iggygirl and 1 others liked this  
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/gallery/2013/mar/01/video-games-museum-modern-art-pictures
robin187
on 10/26/13
My Daughter is making video came an is doing the art work for skycats. She is a greet artist at a young age.
Skalentoman7
on 10/26/13
Check This Out..!Every thing that we make or create can be called art....That's my opinion.wiki Says this.
Art From Wikipedia
Art is a diverse range of human activities and the products of those activities; this article focuses primarily on the visual arts, which includes the creation of images or objects in fields including painting, sculpture, printmaking, photography, and other visual media.
swagblockhead
on 10/26/13
I think video games are better at being an interactive movie! Just look at great games like The last of us and gta5.
Kaliyugo
on 10/26/13
Gaming is partly art, but to call it completely art is off. The gameplay aspect alters it from just being art alone. This aspect makes it something else, if you see a swing set, it can be artistically designed, but it has another function which is to swing. Hate it when people say games are art alone, and when they complain about the stories, a large part of a game is the gameplay, and most of the most popular games in history focused on that, if not usually had great and/or fun and addicting gameplay.
Look at current games now, call of duty and battle field. BF for its mulitplayer(gameplay), and COD for its multiplayer and zombie mode, both of which focus on GAMEPLAY.
Before this, Halo. Guess what was the biggest part of halo. Not its artistic design. Although that was good.
Gameplay is the major factor and is more like creating physics, and rules to a world.

10-27-13 1241am
Hburt006
on 10/26/13
After reading some of these post it makes me wish I could vote a second time so I can vote no again just for the heck of it
soccerty555
on 10/26/13
depends on what the game is about
Skalentoman7
on 10/26/13
Another reason that some games are art is that, old retro games are getting very rare and very collectible just like art, in the near future some of these games and consoles will be in art museums just like art. Because there a part of the worlds history in entertainment.
danielarnold
on 10/26/13
Maybe when video games develop beyond B movie storylines, they may begin to take on artistic qualities.
iam4g10
on 10/26/13
actually changed my mind. don't change your life. just think of grand theft auto ~batman hahaha
iam4g10
on 10/26/13
Look up Darkwatch for original Xbox. changed your life kid -@ lol
iam4g10
on 10/26/13
Video games are complete art. An art you can live virtually~
kyac
on 10/26/13
harnzen liked this  
I am not a gamer and I voted yes. It is a form of graphic art. The story lines can be a form of literary art.
ChloeCalebsMom
on 10/26/13
tfjparadise liked this  
I don't celebrate Halloween.
MaraJade9
on 10/26/13
harnzen and 1 others liked this  
The stories behind some of these games are really intricate. If written fiction is art, I think video games have to be, too. And that's without even discussing the visuals or anything.
morimunda
on 10/26/13
tracereader liked this  
Not really surprised so many people don't see video games as art. I see many things, despite their medium as "Art" but I'd be here all day if I tried to explain why. :)

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