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Today's Poll: 03/06/2015

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Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus will phase out its elephant acts by 2018 amid growing concerns of how the animals are treated. Do you think they should eliminate the elephant acts? Submitted By Team Swagbucks, CA
Yes, absolutely
Yes, but only if they can definitively prove there is abuse
No, elephant acts are necessary to the circus experience
Other/Undecided
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Planetearthtoys
on 03/06/15
they should make animals do the exact thing they make humans do...
so if they dress up animals and force tem to stand on 1 leg, and walk around in circles while people googoo and laugh, then humans should be forced to do it as well..

or is that ,"abuse/ torture" ..????
Guenthecat
on 03/06/15
I don't have a problem with animals performing if they are being well taken care of. I have performed with horses before and I can attest that out horses were Very well taken care of. Fed better than any farm horse I ever grew up with, feet and vetting taken care of like clockwork, and they enjoyed doing what they did. Lots of dog performers are the same way.

The problem here with Elephants and Tigers, etc is that they are Wild Animals not suited for life in stalls or cages. Elephants especially need room to roam in order to be happy. Otherwise, you get that nervous shuffling that happens when they are made to stand still. I'm not even going to address the physical abuse that happens sometimes with bull hooks because I've never seen it personally, I just am aware that there are accusations. What I can talk about is that elephants are proven to develop mental problems when they are confined their whole lives.
luvocats
on 03/06/15
Wild animals belong in the wild. Anyone remember Born Free. We, humans, have NO right to take them out of the wild. Our JOB is to protect them.
gardninmom
on 03/06/15
Some people have gotten out of control in their thinking and in their forcing their opinions on others. My father raises world-class horses and every time they are in the pasture on a rainy day someone calls and reports him to the police for "animal abuse" because they aren't in a shed. Apparently they aren't aware that even when they are in the pasture that does have the shed they will stand outside in the rain. It is no worse to them than a shower is to us. While I deplore abuse, people working together with animals isn't abuse. nor is allowing your animal to live like an animal. It would seem that keeping your dog in your house with a little sweater on and painted nails and bows in his hair is probably more abusive than keeping your dog outside where he has an acre to roam and live like a dog instead of being a human plaything. What I am saying is, some things are definite and obvious abuse. Other things are just differences in opinion on how to raise y
peanutp
on 03/06/15
Yes PLEASE this is what is called ANIMAL ABUSE.
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on 03/06/15
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on 03/06/15
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torklover
on 03/06/15
I approve of stopping any type of abuse, if that's what's going on, but what about the other animals? If the elephants were being abused, what about the lions, tigers, dogs and monkeys? If they are stopping the elephant acts due to abuse, why not stop all the animal acts? Why would the elephants be the only ones that are being treated badly? And if all the animal acts were to be stopped, that's a large part of the Circus! You may as well cancel the whole thing! Can't they just keep the animals in the act and treat them well?
futbolmommy
on 03/06/15
Becvis and 1 others liked this  
Really you guys have never seen the abuse???? Watch the videos! My children have never gone and never will go while animals are being hurt. ANIMALS ARE NOT OUR FOR OUR ENTERTAINMENT.
gardninmom
on 03/06/15
Does that include people who keep their dog in their house with a little sweater on and painted claws and bows in his hair? Because that could be considered abuse and PEOPLE USING ANIMALS FOR THEIR ENTERTAINMENT.
HarleyC
on 03/06/15
AlexaDT and 1 others liked this  
As a member of PETA I am VERY happy to hear about their choice to eliminate this! This just proves that you CAN make a difference by boycotting and voicing your opinions! :)
pjb31apb
on 03/06/15
PamsPoshPretties and 1 others liked this  
It seems odd to me that they would rather eliminate an iconic act from their show rather than hold the people they deal with accountable for animal abuse. These trainers are just going to take their animals somewhere else and abuse them. It seems like circuses could take on an educational role to continue maintaining interest by the masses. They really could be helping these abused animals so much more than just washing their hands of them. JMHO!
CeciMill
on 03/06/15
I don't want any animal or person to be abused. I can't imagine the life of a circus elephant as being conducive to a happy environment for them as it's so out of their elemental nature.
I also think that a circus or zoo is the only way the majority of us will ever be able to experience an elephant and I hate to see that taken away although there are many other creatures also that this applies to.
In the end, the ability for the animal to live a harmonious life in their natural habitat should be our priority.
CouponMamo
on 03/06/15
PamsPoshPretties liked this  
Why can they not use elephants and NOT abuse them? Is there no way to do this?
BeanieBrain
on 03/06/15
PamsPoshPretties liked this  
I don't agree with abuse so fire the ones doing the abusing - what if the elephants (animals) like preforming
kommm
on 03/06/15
Everything is abuse to people now, that is just the liberal way. I'm sure they "abuse" animals when they use them in movies also. So they should not be allowed to use animals in movies either.
Sandy53
on 03/06/15
Actually, there is oversight of the use of animals in every movie to ensure they aren't being injured. If being liberal means I don't think animals should be starved or sick or injured, then slap that liberal label all over me. The alternative is not giving a crap??
GlennJ
on 03/06/15
Wow.. so many extreme opinions on either side of this topic. Makes me think, as in most situations, the "truth" lies somewhere in between. I for one am overall glad they are phasing the elephant acts out. I don't know as the elephants are treated any better/worse than other animal acts (which RB will presumably be keeping), but I will admit the amazement seeing them parade through downtown when the circus came to town and will be a little sad that others won't be able to see this.

Note that from the new reports I've seen on the announcement, the official reason isn't directly due to reports of abuse by RB or some change of heart by RB management. Rather, they've (stated they've) noticed it's something modern audiences are less and less interested in. That may be due to general reports of abuse (whether RB has committed them or not) but also the fact that it is easier than ever to see a live elephant in person (zoos, wildlife refuges,
GlennJ
on 03/06/15
...travel to Asia/Africa).
llaselle
on 03/06/15
They should have to prove no abuse if they don't eliminate them
funkyone
on 03/06/15
I thought it was innocent until proven guilty. There should be proof beyond a shadow of a doubt to prove them guilty. Then fire a¬Ěrosecute the ones that are breaking the law and responsible.
djohn78
on 03/06/15
psasser and 3 others liked this  
They have. Just as global warming and the phrase "separation of church and state" (that phrase is not in US law) have been proven to be false. People still belive in them.
Sandy53
on 03/06/15
Both those statements are wrong. There is global warming and there is a separation of church and state and these animals are getting sick in these closed-in enivronments. Filling your head with Fox Noise doesn't change reality no matter how many times you stamp your feet and hold your breath and wish it so.
Sandy53
on 03/06/15
I love elephants at the circus and it wouldn't be the same without them. If animals could be cared for, it would be fine with me. But I recently saw a circus in a small town and they had an elephant watering tank that was just a cattle tank. None of those animals were cared for. It's just like Sea World. We thought the orcas were okay, and then found out how bad their environment is for them, even the trainers were misled. So it's time to rethink these big animals and end their use in entertainment if it's making them sick. Even some of the Clydesdales have sores on them and should be looked at more closely.
Cat5295
on 03/06/15
retiringin2018 liked this  
I wonder if my grandchildren will ever get to see a live elephant.
new2northshore
on 03/06/15
zacksmommy and 5 others liked this  
Take them to the zoo
JennJayBee
on 03/06/15
Many zoos don't have elephants these days, and in the wild they're still hunted for their tusks. Any kind of preservation-would help the elephant. If the problem is abuse and training, then there's no reason why they can't keep the animals on display without making them part of an act. If PETA had their way, zoos wouldn't exist at all, which is a shame considering that zoos are a part of conservation and raising awareness. Then again, PETA's never met an animal they weren't happy to euthanize.

I get to work backstage at various events as part of a catering company, and the circus is one. I've gotten to meet and even pet some of the animals. Something about getting to see an elephant or a camel that close up just turns you into a 6-year-old all over again. It's magical. It's great that people care about their welfare, but I do wonder how many people will continue to care about the elephant's endangered status once they no c
JennJayBee
on 03/06/15
Cut me off...

I was saying that I wonder how many people will continue to care about the elephant's endangered status once they no longer can see them up close. For many people, seeing is a big part of caring.
Pyrusticia
on 03/06/15
VampyrePrincess and 3 others liked this  
Instead of getting rid of the animal acts, why not improve the treatment of the animals?
djohn78
on 03/06/15
gardninmom and 2 others liked this  
Because the left wing lawyers don't care. They could be treated like royalty and still attacked by lawyers. It's all about the $$$.
psasser
on 03/06/15
Correct, djohn78. Though they cloak themselves in concern and compassion, they bathe themselves in money. It's all a big racket. Some animals are abused, yes. And if verifiable, true abuse is determined (not by PETA, who would call it abuse if you made fun of an elephant's toes), then legal action should be taken. But these lawyers take any shred of suspicion, magnify it, and reap big bugs while manipulating the public to support the advocacy that is hiring them.
seaofruin101
on 03/06/15
AGpuppylover and 2 others liked this  
Just so everyone knows, PETA was the only org. that fond evidence of abuse. (And yes the circus DOES abuse the elephants).
psasser
on 03/06/15
TaintedRose liked this  
PETA would find abuse in a poodle grooming salon.
djohn78
on 03/06/15
Ringling Bros is too expensive anyways. The Shriner's do a quality circus for a fraction of the price...and they still use elephants!
psasser
on 03/06/15
I would be more concerned about the Shriners' tiny motorcycles running amok than what Ringling Bros. does about elephants.
buttercup52
on 03/06/15
I guarantee that the Shriner's are a party to any sort of animal abuse, too.
Swagerati
on 03/06/15
In all likelihood, NO large animals should be kept in captivity to perform, regardless of how "well" they are treated.
FishingNut
on 03/06/15
retiringin2018 liked this  
Elephants have been employed by man for many reasons for over 3000 years. If the animals are happy and well cared for then they should be a part of whatever man is doing.
Elephants love to learn new things and HATE to be bored.
Let them have some fun, too!
In addition, if we do not employ them and care for them, they will be gone. Between war and poaching, they will be extinct in the wild in the next decade or so!!!!
chask29
on 03/06/15
This has to be a troll post. There is no way you can be serious when you say these things.
NoirAngelique
on 03/06/15
LadyRadagu liked this  
I'm not saying I agree or disagree with FishingNut's post, but to call it a troll post simply because you disagree with what was said makes your statement no better than the troll you accuse FishingNut of being.
clarea1
on 03/06/15
cswrawr and 4 others liked this  
There's a difference between training them properly to work and beating them into working to the point of collapse
Nancyellen42215
on 03/06/15
nfelipe100 liked this  
Let us all ban together so people will stop killing snakes in the USA!!! Don't they have feeling????? OH MY GOODNESS
LindseyOConnor
on 03/06/15
Snakes are part of the ecosystem as well. We need them and certainly shouldn't be killing them without immediate necessity. Wonderful critters, snakes. They are living creatures too - with needs of their own (and I hate seeing them in tiny cages in zoos.)
psasser
on 03/06/15
Kunou liked this  
We have rattlesnakes here, and I shoot them on sight. Some people try to claim, "But they eat rodents and other pests." The thing is, I would much rather have the occasional excessive mouse or mole than an animal that blends in with the leaves and twigs before injecting me with deadly venom. Besides, we also have black racers, oak snakes, and garter snakes (among other non-venomous snakes) that also eat pests. I'm not going to risk the safety of my child for the sake of a member of the ecosystem. I'm a member of it, too, and I don't tolerate venomous snakes. Though I would never intentionally kill a non-venomous one.
chask29
on 03/06/15
cswrawr and 10 others liked this  
The saying "if slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be vegetarian" applies to circuses as well. All you see is the glitz and glam of it, but behind the scenes, how can you not see the abuse? How can you not see the bull hooks in the hands of the "trainer" that walk alongside the elephants? If you don't believe there is abuse but are shown the evidence, how can you still deny it?
FishingNut
on 03/06/15
Smoopy65 and 1 others liked this  
Not all elephants are being abused. There are a few trainers that chose to abuse. The majority of them care very deeply for their elephants and take VERY good care of them!
chask29
on 03/06/15
There is no way you can stand by that statement. The majority care very deeply? How would you even know that? What proof do you have? The proof of abuse and mistreatment is documented. Do you really think these animals are asked nicely "please do this ridiculous act, pretty please?" No, the fear of pain is how trainers are able to get a 4 ton pachyderm to perform.

Please do not debate this. You are clearly in denial and want to believe what your want. Not the evidence of abuse.
skinnywallet
on 03/06/15
You took the words right out of my mouth. I would love to have a day alone with those trainers and give them a little taste of their own medicine. They should all be castrated and stomped on by the elephants!
SwagSpeed
on 03/06/15
Becvis liked this  
I haven't gone to a circus since I was 6. I refuse to support the circus.
youreyes2see
on 03/06/15
NGAGE STILL NOT FIXED...

Coding points to the problem in the program... research.. research... research.... lol
Whatever50026
on 03/06/15
Its the trainers who should be let go. But not only is that the problem they are still keeping other animals so that means they could still be "mistreated". I think they should take a closer look at the people they hire to train the animals!
truublx3
on 03/06/15
shiloh515 liked this  
The last 13 performing elephants will retire by 2018, joining 29 other pachyderms at the company's 200-acre Center for Elephant Conservation in central Florida. With a total of 43 elephants, Feld owns the largest herd in North America, and spends about $65,000 yearly to care for each one. New structures will be needed to house the retiring elephants at the rural center, which is close enough to Orlando to attract tourists eventually if that's what Feld decides to offer. They have had 26 baby elephants be born as well. So the 13 that were "saved" will become breeding slaves. In 2014, Feld Entertainment won $25.2 million in settlements from groups including the Humane Society of the United States, ending a 14-year legal battle over allegations that circus employees mistreated elephants.

We might as well set our cats, dogs, hamsters, frogs, lizards, frogs, birds, and the list goes on free also because they are "wild animals". Do your research people!
youreyes2see
on 03/06/15
If you truly look at the reality of any and all LIIVING anything.. all are breeding slaves in one way or another.. INCLUDING humans... cloning ..... gene testing etc.. gene manipulation..etc..

So where does it end? or start?
research will not give you all those details because the science does NOT want you or I to know for real.. what they can already DO!!!!
Remember how old earth is as in how much has been learned in all of those YEARS by all species..
and now used against her to build it to the wants of others..
food for thought.. is all..
Smoopy65
on 03/06/15
Swagerati liked this  
Our pets are not wild animals. Do your research. Also, prove what you are saying about the elephants becoming "breeding slaves". I've not been able to find that info anywhere.
truublx3
on 03/06/15
They have had 26 baby elephants be born with only 29 adults what does that tell you???? The babies had to come from somewhere!
truublx3
on 03/06/15
Oooppppsss the second frog should be snakes sorry.
skinnywallet
on 03/06/15
Becvis liked this  
Elephants belong in the wild, not being beaten by the trainers when they don't perform the insane acts that they are required to do. This brutality should not have gone on for as long as it has, it's absurd. I would love to give the trainers the same abuse they gave these poor elephants.
deebz66
on 03/06/15
Ever since they discovered elephants the circus has been mistreating them. This is a good thing.
Mama333
on 03/06/15
Anyone who's done any research KNOWS how much abuse is done to these animals with horrific photo evidence! Shame on people who support circuses and any form of "entertainment" that harms animals.
maesaysdoit
on 03/06/15
meagan042193 and 1 others liked this  
Elephants have been part of circus acts for generations. The goal should be to rid themselves of the abusive people, not the animals. Elephants are working animals in many parts of the world. Removing the elephant act will not help that issue. Circus acts continue to educate others on the different uses of elephants around the world. Many people don't think about elephants until they are at a circus, zoo, or a wildlife park. PETA, like any cause, pro or con, tells everything on the point it wants to make. I'm not arguing whether its right or wrong, my point is rather, don't use only one source for your information. Standing there filming with hidden cameras while an animal is being abused doesn't make you a hero, it makes you an accomplice. ALL of their employees are not volunteers. You watch it, they seek corporate donations as well. Don't be naive or allow yourself to be manipulated. Check their salaries. Do your research.
Sething25
on 03/06/15
The circus is really good so keep the elephants
aitros
on 03/06/15
I hate the circus
guesswhosback
on 03/06/15
I'm for phasing this out. I was at the Shriner's circus in the 90's when an elephant went crazy thanks to it's coked up and alcoholic trainer.
pinniey
on 03/06/15
Becvis and 2 others liked this  
I don't understand why it is going to take 3 years. Do it now.
NEFollett
on 03/06/15
I'll only go to a circus if it's human-only acts. I saw a bunch of circus animals in a train on the road once and they looked so miserable.
seattleps3
on 03/06/15
nyneelie liked this  
Go to youtube and search for "elephant abuse." Maybe those videos will change your mind. This is the same as Seaworld and its killer whales.
rsbarger
on 03/06/15
I'm not a big circus fan.
SMuhammad19
on 03/06/15
computerlady911 and 1 others liked this  
"Born Free" vs. Circus Slaves
FishingNut
on 03/06/15
Smoopy65 and 2 others liked this  
Born free means struggling for life and attempting to avoid being killed for your teeth! How is that going to help anything. When you find a way to let wild animals live in peace and harmony then you can keep them wild, but as long as paochers and lions exist, being born free isn't all it's cracked up to be!
LindseyOConnor
on 03/06/15
NoirAngelique liked this  
Are you going to give up your freedom to avoid dangerous situations you encounter in your life? I won't - I prefer my freedom. Freedom has a price and perfection doesn't exist. I don't want to be a safer captive - I like the free-range life better.
furbabylover
on 03/06/15
afueras and 1 others liked this  
YES! Wild animals don't perform in a circus because they want to. They need to stop using all animals in circuses. Animals were not put here to entertain humans. Let wild animals be wild & live free. Circus = Cruelty!
clarea1
on 03/06/15
afueras and 1 others liked this  
There is plenty of proof out there. There are videos of the handlers beating the elephants with ropes and cattle prods and whatever else they can get their hands on.
JoeShmooga
on 03/06/15
Chioylore and 2 others liked this  
I'm not in favor of getting rid of them if the proof of abuse is flimsy or nonexistent. Do I believe that some abuse happens? Yes. But the circus management needs to step in and fire and help prosecute any trainers who cross the line. Many, if not most, trainers care deeply about the animals, but there likely are some who are complete dirtbags. The dirtbags should not represent ALL trainers.
FishingNut
on 03/06/15
Chioylore and 1 others liked this  
You are so right. Weed out the bad and keep the good!
Witchfantasy
on 03/06/15
Goldenlover6056 liked this  
It's the Dumbo controversy. I wouldn't imagine an elephant jumping up and down and saying they're going to run away to the circus. But I can't imagine them wanting to be in a zoo or anything like that either. It's the mentality that animals were put on the earth to serve us in whatever way we want. Just like cats for catching mice, dogs for protecting homes or horses, elephants, camels, etc. for riding. Once we realize that we need to respect them as much as we expect respect from them; then maybe we may have a chance.
parrott417
on 03/06/15
djohn78 liked this  
watching those magnificent beasts do their amazing acts installed wonder and the ability to look for beauty everywhere,
LindseyOConnor
on 03/06/15
afueras and 2 others liked this  
Wildlife documentaries instill wonder far better I think.
djohn78
on 03/06/15
dafler and 1 others liked this  
This is what's wrong with America. Let them do their business, mind your own business.
LindseyOConnor
on 03/06/15
lznyc212 and 3 others liked this  
Treatment of those who can't help themselves is everyone's business.
cat228
on 03/06/15
afueras and 3 others liked this  
Animal abuse HAS been proven and videoed. No wild animal deserves a life in captivity. That's why we are trying to get Sea World shut down. A wild dolphin lives 40-50 yrs in the wild and 4 yrs in captivity. There's no possible justification for this.
NeimansMom
on 03/06/15
afueras liked this  
I've always loved seeing the elephants at the circus, but I am concerned about how they are treated. If their humane treatment cannot be guaranteed, then I think it is best to phase them out.
gooseman2012
on 03/06/15
djohn78 liked this  
NO WAY! elephants are one of the best parts of the show. how about people hanging by their hair and falling 30-40ft to the ground. NOW THAT WAS COOL!

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